Re: [-empyre-] delineations

["Aliette Guibert" <guibertc@criticalsecret.com>]

Dear friends,

Any more sorry of my bad anglophone writings.


Even Ryan has just posted a new reply to Kate, I send mine.

Forgiveness, I would not allow to answer on Deleuze and Guattari because I
do not know enough of their work (naturally it is incomplete from my part),
but I find great to open a way of the debate with A Thousand Plateaus -by
Kate. As for me I would simply like to answer the post of Ryan, whose
quesiton or declaration appears interesting being under all
of the question of practice and theory.

More I should like to answer him because I feel some points
which regard the message which I had sent before. I would be afraid of any
confusion on my purpose:)

I would just like to add two aspects of reply which I have not handled
(treated?).

The matter is that I wonder if before my first one there were not confusion
on the transcendence -which concerns the spirituality- with the
transgression (malpractice? -interesting connotation, like acting a
diverting of the rule)- which concerns acts, individual acts
 so abstract as social and also collective acts (groups, packs, masses)-.


On the transgression of the desire in Freudian psychoanalysis, and
Lacanian's, and the question of the drive (?) of death (which explains
the malpractice of the fantasm in the passage to the pathological act),
if we leave the background of the pathology, and if we do not look at the
exclusive eros, it also concerns the acts which exceed the standard of the
social organization or the traditional institution. Then maybe it is
necessary to see in psychoanalysis an interpretative tool of
the malpractice in critical institutional examples realized socially,
as those of the Communes (quote by Ryan).

To return to the old political quarrel said " quarrel of the realism " which
was in fact that of the social realism in literature in poetry and in
art to the struggle of class; today we know the same in politics as in
desire: how everything can be thought or imagined, but everything cannot be

crossed in the act (the crime or the error attributed to the
management of the community, for example?)

But as for me I am always bothered to see a railing of psychological
or psycho-sociological interpretation applied to the critical
social behavior, even if the complexity of the theory of the malpractice at
Lacan is political in itself; In more precise terms theses interpretations
kill politics to which it explains. Being in metapolitics (Ryan said
otherwise politics, and no utopie) the percept of which I approve.

That is why, to avoid a confusion, I would personally be very interested
that one of the thematic guardians concerned in his(her,its) work or its
artistic creation by Lacan explains to us clearly in what consists according
to him the theory of the malpractice of Freudian psychoanalysis and / or the
difference at Lacan. Please Kate, of Bracha Ettinger, could you lighten
us ?

A.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ryan griffis" <grifray@yahoo.com>
To: <empyre@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: [-empyre-] delineations


> > I would like to add that firstly, I think that forms of oppression
> > need to
> > be recognised and articulated.  I think this passage from a recent
> > lecture
> > by Jane Flax at AHRB CentreCATH at the University of Leeds is relevant
> > here.
> > ‘Often, however, what is required are ways to delimit
> > the system, so that it appears as a perspective rather than inexorable
> > truth. However, only certain practices of subjectivity are likely to
> > engender a critical skepticism in regard to normalizing processes.’
>
> > Secondly, I think that the processes of transgressing those oppressive
> > boundaries should not (to borrow a phrase from Bracha Ettinger)
> > ‘submit or
> > fold into’ the oppressive forms themselves.
>
> These two points from Kate are right on, in my estimation. i've been
> thinking about the role of "tactical essentialism" as a form of
> resistance, and its dangers and limitations... on another discussion
> group ( http://www.walkinginplace.org/ ), there have been a couple of
> posts discussing the assimilation/co-optation of notions of "the local"
> - how localization is becoming part of the efficiency of capital and
> read through models of market valuation. with the role that IT is
> playing in this, it seems especially relevant to media-based artists
> concerned with such things, but something that seems to be glossed over
> fairly easily. in what ways should we be considering media/IT as
> functioning within boundaries of oppressive forms? how do we delimit
> that terrain with the knowledge and histories we have access to?
> ryan
>
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